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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://www.latheatrereview.com/2010/01/29/circus-welt-at-whitefire-theatre/comment-page-1/#comment-1306</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 03:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Cerny,

Thank you for your comments.  I love dialogue and am glad you decided to engage in one.  I do have some thoughts about your comments, of course.  In a few places I actually agree with you and in a few places you took as criticism something that was not meant as such.

I mentioned you were charming because you charmed me, both in the lobby and with your introduction.  You are right, I should have noticed that you were sitting in the audience, not running the lights.  I apologize to you and to our readers.

As for the comment about you asking the audience to turn of the cell phones, this was not a criticism at all.  I was just pointing out that you used that moment that most theatres use to get the electronics handled to also elaborate on why you had written the play.  Perhaps I could have made that connection more clear.

Yes, you are right again, the original takes place in France, which I actually knew.  It was written by a Russian, it did not take place in Russia.  Again, I apologize for that incorrect statement and thank you for pointing it out to me and our readers.

The big thing however, was the point about the symbolism of why HE decides to become a clown, and one who gets slapped.  Yes, you left the dialogue with his rival in tact.  However, the reason, specifically, in the original, that HE joins the circus and why he decides getting slapped will be his bit, is specifically that life has beaten him and made him a clown.  In your adaptation, he joins the circus precisely because he no longer wants to (or, actually never wanted to) teach the propaganda of the Third Reich.  It therefore becomes a little bit puzzling that he decides that being slapped will be his thing.

Of course, clowns only use pretend slaps.  No, I don't expect anyone on stage to get hurt.  What I said was they were obviously pretend slaps.  I have both seen and been in plays with very safe fight choreography that was very convincing, with similar types of slaps in them, but the audience did not know they were "pretend".  It may have been a trick of my seat or a function of a single performance, but during the show I saw, the slaps were obviously several inches from the people's faces.

Yes, there was a typo in the final mention of the name of the theatre.  It has been corrected.  Thank you for bringing it to my attention.  We are always chagrined when a typo, especially as blatant as that, gets through.  I have said in the past that we strive to be accurate, that mistakes will get through and that I dearly hope we will correct any mistake we make once we are made aware of it.  I, personally, have been making stupid mistakes a lot, lately.  And as I'm the editor of LATR, there isn't anyone to slap me before something gets posted when I do.

I do not think my review was mean spirited.  I'm sorry you did.  Again, thank you for bringing your thoughts to the conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Cerny,</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments.  I love dialogue and am glad you decided to engage in one.  I do have some thoughts about your comments, of course.  In a few places I actually agree with you and in a few places you took as criticism something that was not meant as such.</p>
<p>I mentioned you were charming because you charmed me, both in the lobby and with your introduction.  You are right, I should have noticed that you were sitting in the audience, not running the lights.  I apologize to you and to our readers.</p>
<p>As for the comment about you asking the audience to turn of the cell phones, this was not a criticism at all.  I was just pointing out that you used that moment that most theatres use to get the electronics handled to also elaborate on why you had written the play.  Perhaps I could have made that connection more clear.</p>
<p>Yes, you are right again, the original takes place in France, which I actually knew.  It was written by a Russian, it did not take place in Russia.  Again, I apologize for that incorrect statement and thank you for pointing it out to me and our readers.</p>
<p>The big thing however, was the point about the symbolism of why HE decides to become a clown, and one who gets slapped.  Yes, you left the dialogue with his rival in tact.  However, the reason, specifically, in the original, that HE joins the circus and why he decides getting slapped will be his bit, is specifically that life has beaten him and made him a clown.  In your adaptation, he joins the circus precisely because he no longer wants to (or, actually never wanted to) teach the propaganda of the Third Reich.  It therefore becomes a little bit puzzling that he decides that being slapped will be his thing.</p>
<p>Of course, clowns only use pretend slaps.  No, I don&#8217;t expect anyone on stage to get hurt.  What I said was they were obviously pretend slaps.  I have both seen and been in plays with very safe fight choreography that was very convincing, with similar types of slaps in them, but the audience did not know they were &#8220;pretend&#8221;.  It may have been a trick of my seat or a function of a single performance, but during the show I saw, the slaps were obviously several inches from the people&#8217;s faces.</p>
<p>Yes, there was a typo in the final mention of the name of the theatre.  It has been corrected.  Thank you for bringing it to my attention.  We are always chagrined when a typo, especially as blatant as that, gets through.  I have said in the past that we strive to be accurate, that mistakes will get through and that I dearly hope we will correct any mistake we make once we are made aware of it.  I, personally, have been making stupid mistakes a lot, lately.  And as I&#8217;m the editor of LATR, there isn&#8217;t anyone to slap me before something gets posted when I do.</p>
<p>I do not think my review was mean spirited.  I&#8217;m sorry you did.  Again, thank you for bringing your thoughts to the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavel Cerny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pavel Cerny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am the author and director of the above stage production and I would like to post a few comments. First of all let me state that I firmly believe in a critics right to have any opinion of my stage productions. What bothered me here was the lack of any professionality and informed writing. Let me give you just a few examples.
To start with, Mr.Hoff writes that I am a "charming gentlman". What does this mean and why is that mentioned in the review? I know of many famous great artists who were complete a*holes. Next the critic mentiones that I ran the lights for the show. If he paid any attention he would have seen me sitting a few seats away from him throughout the evening. We are not rich but we can still afford a stage manager and light and sound operator. Next comes a comment that I asked the audiences to turn off their phones. Is this part of his criticism? I am a director in LA theater for 35 years and I have never see anything similar mentioned in a review. ALL the theaters from the smallest one to Staples do the same thing every night.
Then comes a claim that the original play He Who Gets Slapped takes place in Russia. WRONG! If Mr. Hoff just bothered to google it, he would have found out that it takes place in the pre WWI.France. He also mentiones that the "symbolism why the man wants to become a clown" was lost. Again, if he read the play he would have noticed that except for two or three added words I have used word by word the explanation from the Andreyev play. If you do not know the facts, do not use them.
In a following comment the critic says that the clowns were only recently coached and should have gone to the Clown School down the street. (Does he mean the improv group LA Connection?) Actually all three of my Chorus of Clown members have many years of clown education and professional experience. They also underwent 8 weeks of preparation with the great  clown Matthew Morgan. They get applause on open stage several times during each show.
Next comes a complaint that the clowns used only pretend slapstick slaps and also the fight scene was only pretend. 1) Clowns always use only pretend slaps. This tradition goes back at least for the 400 years of the Comedia dell'Arte and possibly all the way to Old Greece and Rome. 2) DId he really want us to kick the actors in their stomach and loins for real? Would he like to volunteer to be the one being kicked? Maybe "He Who Gets Kicked"?
And just to end this tirade: Geoff Hoff writes that the production is playing at the Wildfire Theatre while we are playing at the Whitefire Theatre.
Once again it is not the critiic's opinions or even the meanspiritednes of the review that I am protesting. It is the lack or professionality and intelligence.
This publication claims that they screen each new critic and ask for samples of  writing.  Boy did this one squeeze through the crack.
Please come see CIRCUS WELT. It is playing just for a few more weeks. I promisse you that it will be a highlight of you theater going experience this year or any year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the author and director of the above stage production and I would like to post a few comments. First of all let me state that I firmly believe in a critics right to have any opinion of my stage productions. What bothered me here was the lack of any professionality and informed writing. Let me give you just a few examples.<br />
To start with, Mr.Hoff writes that I am a &#8220;charming gentlman&#8221;. What does this mean and why is that mentioned in the review? I know of many famous great artists who were complete a*holes. Next the critic mentiones that I ran the lights for the show. If he paid any attention he would have seen me sitting a few seats away from him throughout the evening. We are not rich but we can still afford a stage manager and light and sound operator. Next comes a comment that I asked the audiences to turn off their phones. Is this part of his criticism? I am a director in LA theater for 35 years and I have never see anything similar mentioned in a review. ALL the theaters from the smallest one to Staples do the same thing every night.<br />
Then comes a claim that the original play He Who Gets Slapped takes place in Russia. WRONG! If Mr. Hoff just bothered to google it, he would have found out that it takes place in the pre WWI.France. He also mentiones that the &#8220;symbolism why the man wants to become a clown&#8221; was lost. Again, if he read the play he would have noticed that except for two or three added words I have used word by word the explanation from the Andreyev play. If you do not know the facts, do not use them.<br />
In a following comment the critic says that the clowns were only recently coached and should have gone to the Clown School down the street. (Does he mean the improv group LA Connection?) Actually all three of my Chorus of Clown members have many years of clown education and professional experience. They also underwent 8 weeks of preparation with the great  clown Matthew Morgan. They get applause on open stage several times during each show.<br />
Next comes a complaint that the clowns used only pretend slapstick slaps and also the fight scene was only pretend. 1) Clowns always use only pretend slaps. This tradition goes back at least for the 400 years of the Comedia dell&#8217;Arte and possibly all the way to Old Greece and Rome. 2) DId he really want us to kick the actors in their stomach and loins for real? Would he like to volunteer to be the one being kicked? Maybe &#8220;He Who Gets Kicked&#8221;?<br />
And just to end this tirade: Geoff Hoff writes that the production is playing at the Wildfire Theatre while we are playing at the Whitefire Theatre.<br />
Once again it is not the critiic&#8217;s opinions or even the meanspiritednes of the review that I am protesting. It is the lack or professionality and intelligence.<br />
This publication claims that they screen each new critic and ask for samples of  writing.  Boy did this one squeeze through the crack.<br />
Please come see CIRCUS WELT. It is playing just for a few more weeks. I promisse you that it will be a highlight of you theater going experience this year or any year.</p>
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		<title>By: CIRCUS WELT: 75% Sweet &#8211; UPDATED&#160;&#124;&#160;Bitter Lemons</title>
		<link>http://www.latheatrereview.com/2010/01/29/circus-welt-at-whitefire-theatre/comment-page-1/#comment-1283</link>
		<dc:creator>CIRCUS WELT: 75% Sweet &#8211; UPDATED&#160;&#124;&#160;Bitter Lemons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on to the melodrama of it. Or, perhaps, the melodrama seems painted on to the political aspects.  Geoff Hoff &#8211; LA Theatre Review    Filed under review Tags: backstage, daryl h. miller, edge los angeles, geoff hoff, gwen hardin, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on to the melodrama of it. Or, perhaps, the melodrama seems painted on to the political aspects.  Geoff Hoff &#8211; LA Theatre Review    Filed under review Tags: backstage, daryl h. miller, edge los angeles, geoff hoff, gwen hardin, [...]</p>
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